Comments on: Pinot Tasting Results http://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/ A blog about starting and building a family winery in the Russian River Valley. Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:58:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: huevos con vino » Blog Archive » Attack of the Cloneshttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1524 huevos con vino » Blog Archive » Attack of the Clones Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:34:27 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1524 [...] For example, I expect to try some of my Ketelsen Tudor House Reserve tonight, and as Josh from Pinotblogger tells me, that wine was made from Dijon clones 777 and 667.  I guess I’ll really know what this means, with regard to the flavor of the resulting wine, soon enough.  [...] [...] For example, I expect to try some of my Ketelsen Tudor House Reserve tonight, and as Josh from Pinotblogger tells me, that wine was made from Dijon clones 777 and 667.  I guess I’ll really know what this means, with regard to the flavor of the resulting wine, soon enough.  [...]

]]> By: huevos con vino » Blog Archive » Buying some Ketelsen Pinot Noirhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1135 huevos con vino » Blog Archive » Buying some Ketelsen Pinot Noir Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:17:27 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1135 [...] I see a similarity in the wine industry.  One of the most appealing aspects of becoming a wine connoisseur is the ability to interact with small-scale producers who may never get their bottles onto the shelves of a store.  I think that’s part of the allure for me, though: I know a guy who knows a guy who makes great wine, the kind of wine that beats Sea Smoke Botella in a tasting. [...] [...] I see a similarity in the wine industry.  One of the most appealing aspects of becoming a wine connoisseur is the ability to interact with small-scale producers who may never get their bottles onto the shelves of a store.  I think that’s part of the allure for me, though: I know a guy who knows a guy who makes great wine, the kind of wine that beats Sea Smoke Botella in a tasting. [...]

]]> By: Alexhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1121 Alex Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:11:23 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1121 Thanks, Josh! I e-mailed Linda so we'll see if she's got any of that wine left. I've tried a Domaine Serene Pinot Noir that used at least the 777 Dijon clone, but I remain enough of a novice that I couldn't tell you the difference between the 777 and the 667...*) Thanks, Josh! I e-mailed Linda so we’ll see if she’s got any of that wine left. I’ve tried a Domaine Serene Pinot Noir that used at least the 777 Dijon clone, but I remain enough of a novice that I couldn’t tell you the difference between the 777 and the 667…*)

]]> By: Joshhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1120 Josh Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:45:08 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1120 Hey Alex,We let the wines breathe for a few hours, but no, no decanting and definitely no white gloves ;)The 04 Moshin Lot 4 is nice, but it is a bigger wine with some darker fruit and less of the floral nose that the 03 had in spades. Still very good though.And if you\'d like to buy a bottle or two of the 02 Tudor House just give Linda a call at 707-546-0968 or email her jcketel@hotmail.com. Only 50 cases left, so get some while you can.The wine is reasonably priced at around 30 bucks a bottle. It\'s made with the newer Dijon clones (777 and 667) so its nice and fruit forward. Another tip from Linda is to let it breathe a bit before drinking.Let me know how you like it! Hey Alex,

We let the wines breathe for a few hours, but no, no decanting and definitely no white gloves ;)

The 04 Moshin Lot 4 is nice, but it is a bigger wine with some darker fruit and less of the floral nose that the 03 had in spades. Still very good though.

And if you\’d like to buy a bottle or two of the 02 Tudor House just give Linda a call at 707-546-0968 or email her jcketel@hotmail.com. Only 50 cases left, so get some while you can.

The wine is reasonably priced at around 30 bucks a bottle. It\’s made with the newer Dijon clones (777 and 667) so its nice and fruit forward. Another tip from Linda is to let it breathe a bit before drinking.

Let me know how you like it!

]]> By: Alexhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1115 Alex Sun, 09 Jul 2006 02:30:16 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1115 Thanks very much for the clarification! I see what you're saying about the Botella; were the wines decanted first? I know this wine evolved quite a bit after being decanted for a while when I tried it. Of course, I assume you know how to run a proper wine tasting, so I'm sure you had leaded crystal decanters, white gloves, etc., etc. *)Do you know how the 2004 Moshin Pinots stack up against the 2003 vintage? Are they comparable? The 2003 vintage is sold out...and now I need to find Tudor House Reserve somewhere! Thanks very much for the clarification! I see what you’re saying about the Botella; were the wines decanted first? I know this wine evolved quite a bit after being decanted for a while when I tried it. Of course, I assume you know how to run a proper wine tasting, so I’m sure you had leaded crystal decanters, white gloves, etc., etc. *)

Do you know how the 2004 Moshin Pinots stack up against the 2003 vintage? Are they comparable? The 2003 vintage is sold out…and now I need to find Tudor House Reserve somewhere!

]]> By: Joshhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1105 Josh Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:34:40 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1105 Hey Alex,Here are my personal rankings. I broke them up into tiers. Really all the wines were good, and the first three groups were all very good. Choosing between a bunch of wines this good is a little silly, but it is fun and helps you figure out what type of style you're really after. Hope this helps a little.The Botella is a very good wine for the price. Some folks who tasted it (there were 7) thought it was a little heavy on the tannins. I got quite a bit of oak on the nose, which just isn't something I look for in a pinot. I like the tell-tale signs of oak, like vanilla, when it is well integrated, but in this case I thought is was a little too forward.Moshin Lot 4 Tudor House ReserveDehlinger Goldridge Moshin 115 Clone Harrington Merry EdwardsRochioli Estate Sea Smoke Botella D'AgostiniRochioli Three Corner Marimar Torres Rochioli Special CuveeHalleck Gary Farrell Dutton Goldfield Dehlinger Estate HoldredgeThe corked wines Hey Alex,

Here are my personal rankings. I broke them up into tiers. Really all the wines were good, and the first three groups were all very good. Choosing between a bunch of wines this good is a little silly, but it is fun and helps you figure out what type of style you’re really after. Hope this helps a little.

The Botella is a very good wine for the price. Some folks who tasted it (there were 7) thought it was a little heavy on the tannins. I got quite a bit of oak on the nose, which just isn’t something I look for in a pinot. I like the tell-tale signs of oak, like vanilla, when it is well integrated, but in this case I thought is was a little too forward.

Moshin Lot 4
Tudor House Reserve

Dehlinger Goldridge
Moshin 115 Clone
Harrington
Merry Edwards

Rochioli Estate
Sea Smoke Botella
D’Agostini

Rochioli Three Corner
Marimar Torres
Rochioli Special Cuvee

Halleck
Gary Farrell
Dutton Goldfield
Dehlinger Estate
Holdredge

The corked wines

]]> By: Alexhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1104 Alex Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:38:19 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1104 Hey Josh, you list the consensus favorites, but what did your personal list look like? I'm curious because we seem to have similar taste in Pinot Noir and I want to know how your list differs from the consensus list. How many total tasters were there, by the way? Hey Josh, you list the consensus favorites, but what did your personal list look like? I’m curious because we seem to have similar taste in Pinot Noir and I want to know how your list differs from the consensus list. How many total tasters were there, by the way?

]]> By: huevos con vino » Blog Archive » Smoke on the water…but the company wasn’t badhttp://pinotblogger.com/2006/07/04/pinot-tasting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1103 huevos con vino » Blog Archive » Smoke on the water…but the company wasn’t bad Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:36:29 +0000 http://pinotblogger.com/?p=112#comment-1103 [...] Now, the interesting thing about this 2004 Sea Smoke Botella is how low it was rated at this comparative tasting event.  I really like what I’ve read at Josh’s blog so far, so I am very excited to hear that he and some other folks rated this exact same wine 15th out of 17 drinkable Pinot Noirs.  Granted, they came from different regions in California, and from different vintages, but still…that tells me I have a lot of other Pinot Noir to try!  I am excited to see what, for example, a 2001 D’Agostini tastes like, particularly at $10/bottle.  Wow.  I’d love to see a repeat of that taste test with a Domaine Drouhin Laurène and a Radio-Coteau La Neblina thrown in just to confuse the issue a bit. [...] [...] Now, the interesting thing about this 2004 Sea Smoke Botella is how low it was rated at this comparative tasting event.  I really like what I’ve read at Josh’s blog so far, so I am very excited to hear that he and some other folks rated this exact same wine 15th out of 17 drinkable Pinot Noirs.  Granted, they came from different regions in California, and from different vintages, but still…that tells me I have a lot of other Pinot Noir to try!  I am excited to see what, for example, a 2001 D’Agostini tastes like, particularly at $10/bottle.  Wow.  I’d love to see a repeat of that taste test with a Domaine Drouhin Laurène and a Radio-Coteau La Neblina thrown in just to confuse the issue a bit. [...]

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