<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: A Beautiful Sentiment&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/</link> <description>A blog about starting and building a family winery in the Russian River Valley.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:58:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: El Jefe</title><link>http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-37234</link> <dc:creator>El Jefe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 04:50:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/#comment-37234</guid> <description>a little irony on el bloggo today, but no way I&#039;m not going to talk about gold medals! :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a little irony on el bloggo today, but no way I&#8217;m not going to talk about gold medals! <img src='http://pinotblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dr. Debs</title><link>http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-37087</link> <dc:creator>Dr. Debs</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:47:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/#comment-37087</guid> <description>Very interesting post. What Tim has proposed (the 5-star system) does have the potential, if bloggers all agreed to do it, to provide a way to gather ratings from across the blogosphere and generate a rating that might be used in marketing (i.e. &quot;# wine bloggers give this wine 4 stars out of 5.&quot;) But already folks are &quot;translating&quot; the stars into the 100-point scale--and we don&#039;t even have the plug-in yet! This worries me (and some other bloggers, too) because I try to give people something more thoughtful and something that has a clear evaluative standard built into it.I hope that Tim and others develop such a standard for the star rating system. If they did I would use it. But until then, given the wide variety of interpretations on how folks would dole out stars, I&#039;m going to stick to quality/price ratio and long, wordy reviews because that&#039;s what me and my readers seem to want. And, incidentally, they do buy wine based on these reviews, if the outclicks to wine-searcher, and various winery stores are any indication.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post. What Tim has proposed (the 5-star system) does have the potential, if bloggers all agreed to do it, to provide a way to gather ratings from across the blogosphere and generate a rating that might be used in marketing (i.e. &#8220;# wine bloggers give this wine 4 stars out of 5.&#8221;) But already folks are &#8220;translating&#8221; the stars into the 100-point scale&#8211;and we don&#8217;t even have the plug-in yet! This worries me (and some other bloggers, too) because I try to give people something more thoughtful and something that has a clear evaluative standard built into it.</p><p>I hope that Tim and others develop such a standard for the star rating system. If they did I would use it. But until then, given the wide variety of interpretations on how folks would dole out stars, I&#8217;m going to stick to quality/price ratio and long, wordy reviews because that&#8217;s what me and my readers seem to want. And, incidentally, they do buy wine based on these reviews, if the outclicks to wine-searcher, and various winery stores are any indication.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Josh</title><link>http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-36924</link> <dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:35:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/#comment-36924</guid> <description>Jefe,I thought your post was extremely moving Jeff. It&#039;s how I feel as well, I just don&#039;t see any way our industry could function without ratings anymore (sadly). FWIW I&#039;ll  never give a wine a score on this blog.I guess I&#039;m just hard hearted (and scared about what might happen if we don&#039;t sell enough wine). But I think you have to deal with market realities when you&#039;re just starting out. When we have some cash in the bank and a relatively steady flow of revenue, I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll start to fuss over the artistic stuff much more.Mike,I&#039;m entirely sympathetic to the idea that wine shouldn&#039;t be rated, but that&#039;s just not the world we live in. I&#039;m also aware that our style of Pinot isn&#039;t likely to garner a huge score from the typical gatekeepers. But since I know this, I can plan around it, hone my market focus and not be blown out of the water if/when I get an 89 (or less) instead of a 92.There is certainly a business reason to decry relying on one or two people&#039;s ratings, but I don&#039;t see any business rationale in rallying to eliminate ratings in general. They&#039;re a powerful force in the market, and tell a complex story simply. As you say, people buy more wine because of them because there is just too much wine out there.Thanks for the comments!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jefe,</p><p>I thought your post was extremely moving Jeff. It&#8217;s how I feel as well, I just don&#8217;t see any way our industry could function without ratings anymore (sadly). FWIW I&#8217;ll  never give a wine a score on this blog.</p><p>I guess I&#8217;m just hard hearted (and scared about what might happen if we don&#8217;t sell enough wine). But I think you have to deal with market realities when you&#8217;re just starting out. When we have some cash in the bank and a relatively steady flow of revenue, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll start to fuss over the artistic stuff much more.</p><p>Mike,</p><p>I&#8217;m entirely sympathetic to the idea that wine shouldn&#8217;t be rated, but that&#8217;s just not the world we live in. I&#8217;m also aware that our style of Pinot isn&#8217;t likely to garner a huge score from the typical gatekeepers. But since I know this, I can plan around it, hone my market focus and not be blown out of the water if/when I get an 89 (or less) instead of a 92.</p><p>There is certainly a business reason to decry relying on one or two people&#8217;s ratings, but I don&#8217;t see any business rationale in rallying to eliminate ratings in general. They&#8217;re a powerful force in the market, and tell a complex story simply. As you say, people buy more wine because of them because there is just too much wine out there.</p><p>Thanks for the comments!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike Duffy</title><link>http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-36918</link> <dc:creator>Mike Duffy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:09:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/#comment-36918</guid> <description>Well, it&#039;s fine if you&#039;re the wine with the 92, but no so good, Mr. Businessman, if you&#039;re the wine with the 89.  Yet, the 89 wine is probably perfectly fine to drink (unless you&#039;re completely jaded).  The problem occurs when people buy only based on a number, not because of personal experience with the wine.  So even though El Jefe was waxing rhapsodic, there is still a business reason to decry a blind reliance on ratings.The problem is that with over 10,000 new wines each year, people are looking for guidance.  And when wine writing gets too geeky, people opt for a number.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s fine if you&#8217;re the wine with the 92, but no so good, Mr. Businessman, if you&#8217;re the wine with the 89.  Yet, the 89 wine is probably perfectly fine to drink (unless you&#8217;re completely jaded).  The problem occurs when people buy only based on a number, not because of personal experience with the wine.  So even though El Jefe was waxing rhapsodic, there is still a business reason to decry a blind reliance on ratings.</p><p>The problem is that with over 10,000 new wines each year, people are looking for guidance.  And when wine writing gets too geeky, people opt for a number.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: El Jefe</title><link>http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-36896</link> <dc:creator>El Jefe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://pinotblogger.com/2007/06/21/a-beautiful-sentiment/#comment-36896</guid> <description>OK, so I was in a mood last night... what you got was personal opinion, not necessarily bidness opinion. Just look at any of our materials and you&#039;ll see I wantonly use any all awards and scores that I can bring to bear. But I also must acknowledge that there have been many great writeups of our wines that carried no ratings at all, and these have helped our brand acceptance in a big way. Thanks! - j</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so I was in a mood last night&#8230; what you got was personal opinion, not necessarily bidness opinion. Just look at any of our materials and you&#8217;ll see I wantonly use any all awards and scores that I can bring to bear. But I also must acknowledge that there have been many great writeups of our wines that carried no ratings at all, and these have helped our brand acceptance in a big way. Thanks! &#8211; j</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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